Friday, January 21, 2011

God Uses Others to Bless Lives!

I had a Facebook conversation yesterday with a wonderful friend... here's how it went:

Hi Marisa,

How are You? I've been wanting to say something to you about Wayne Dyer, but held myself back. Now the Holy Spirit is prompting me to speak up, even at the risk of ruffling feathers!

Several years ago (after being born again), I got into New Age philosophy quite heavily. I couldn't get ENOUGH of people like Wayne Dyer, Marianne Williamson, Eckhart Tolle, etc....There's a lot of intriguing, enticing stuff out there....that, on the surface sounds really good. My advice to you as my sister in Christ, is to BE CAREFUL. As you know, we have been warned that in the last days there would be many false teachers and prophets. I believe that New Age philosophy is in many respects antithetical to Biblical Christianity. It took me down a path that led to my ultimate demise, crying out to God for refuge. I don't want to see any of my friends go there!!!

I'm not judging you for the quotes you've posted. They are all good and make sense. I just don't want to see you get "hooked in" like I was.

Praying for ya, Sista!!!!!

Love in Christ,

Rosie

P.S.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but I came out of Mormonism almost twenty years ago. Deception is rampant in this day and age. If someone's teachings do not align with God's Word....BEWARE! 


Rosie,


Thank-you so much for thinking about me and caring enough to confront!


Wow! I don't even know where to begin and to share with you in a way that you will see my heart... a heart that is passionately and completely in love with Jesus.


Though I find God's message of the fruits of the Spirit comforting, I haven't always seen them actualized in the Christians around me. My father was battered mercilessly by the church, as was my husband, I watched dear friends be viciously attacked by fellow Christians (a great friend of mine was fired from her youth pastorate position 3 days before this last Christmas by the lead pastor of the church), and both of my children have been ostracized by their Christian peers.


All of my experiences have sent me on my own little quest.


I often think of a statement made by Shane Claiborne that satan has us so busy doing the "church thing" that we miss there is a dying and oppressed world out there. I have concluded that I don't want to busy myself with contention in the church. We are now a part of a small home cell group and this is our church.


Many years ago I began eating organic foods and living a more green lifestyle. I also began to learning about the Ayurvedic Principles and my dosha type because I do believe everything is energy. There is much of Eastern philosophy that I agree with and espouse for my own life. For me, finding a balance and a peace has been essential for my health and well-being. Having said that, I believe I'm nothing without the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit living within me. I pray every day that the Lord will unleash His power within me, so others will see the His fruits. As Wayne Dyer said, "I don't think that Jesus was teaching Christianity, Jesus was teaching kindness, love, concern, and peace. What I tell people is don't be Christian, be Christ-like." I don't believe this can happen in our own humanness without God's help, but I completely agree with this way of thinking.


I have Wayne Dyer books and I've listened to many of his lectures and Rosie, if I'm going to be very honest with you, I agree with much of what he says. I believe many of us Christians would lead better, more productive, healthy lives for Christ if we would incorporate some of Wayne Dyers principles in our lives.


Having said all of this... I'm probably an out-in-left-field kind of a Christian. I believe God gave us our earth to care for and not abuse and so I'm an avid recycler and am as eco-friendly as possible. I believe in energetic balancing... that when we are out of sync, we are more susceptible to illness. I look to prayer and holistic medicine for healing. I don't think I'm your average run of the mill Christian gal. I know I'm way out there, but it works and makes sense for me.


As you've already said, the quotes I've used on Facebook "are good and make sense." I think what I'm trying to convey is I always try to stay in tune to what the Holy Spirit is saying to me and look to His Word for the only true answers. This doesn't mean God won't use others to inspire me... like Joyce Myers, Joel Osteen, Shane Claiborne, Donald Miller, Wayne Dyer, Rosie Parry...


Thanks again my friend for caring enough about me to share! You are a very special gal and I hope we can always have the open lines of communication we have now. We need one another gravely (at least I need you)!!


♥ U


Marisa

Wow!!! Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts and unique perspective! I was so afraid that you might be upset with me, and am so delighted you're not!

I wish we could chat over coffee (or that tea you like...can't remember what it's called!) I have so much more I'd like to say, but no time to say it, unfortunately.

Maybe I'm being overly 'fanatical' in my approach; I don't know. I only speak from my frame of reference which is a bit different from yours. My parents are not Bible-believing Christians like yours are/were.

Regarding the good health you've enjoyed, I'm both impressed and ENVIOUS. I've really struggled in this area, but am also taking Ayurvedic herbs like holy basil and triphala(?).

I guess I feel a bit conflicted over all of this. I've been a fan of Oprah's for quite some time, and know she subscribes to Wayne Dyer's philosophies - among others.

Anyway, I've got to get going....time for my BowFlex workout, but just wanted to thank you again for taking the time to respond. You are a very wonderful and interesting person--and are such a blessing to me!

Love Ya,

Rosie

Rosie,


If you'll go back and read the comments under the posts I've quoted Wayne Dyer, you will see that his words struck a chord and they have meaning to these devout Christian folks. The cool thing is we can take a highlighter to what others say and pick and choose what we like and what we don't. We can't do that to God's words, but we can with one another... I'm thankful I can draw from the wisdom of others :)


Marisa

Regarding: "Rosie, if you'll go back and read the comments under the posts I've quoted Wayne Dyer, you will see that his words struck a chord and they have meaning to these devout Christian folks. The cool thing is we can take a highlighter to what others say and pick and choose what we like and what we don't. We can't do that to God's words, but we can with one another... I'm thankful I can draw from the wisdom of others."

Good point. Take what you need and leave the rest, in other words, right? :)

Rosie,


I just received this message from a wonderful Christian friend of mine:


I have always loved reading and listening to Wayne Dyer. He came and spoke at Beech Grove once at a place where I worked. I didn't get to listen to him, but I spent the day thinking about him. He just has a calmer way of looking at life, I guess. When he writes, it all just makes sense. So, yes, I agree with you.


Whether we agree with all of his philosophies or not, he truly has a calm, peaceful demeanor we all could take a lesson from... on that note... off for an evening of yoga and meditation (on GOD's Words:)


Marisa

Thanks for sharing this, Marisa! I must confess, I enjoy listening to him too. He's a fascinating person, indeed! He used to live in Boca Raton, which is where I'm from. I thought I saw him at a health food store one time. I wasn't 100% sure, until I saw him drive off in what looked like a car that cost 100K...and thought, "Yep, it's him!"

Rosie

Hehehehehe!! That would be one area he and Shane Claiborne would collide :) funny... they both inspire me! Perhaps that's what I'm talking about when I refer to "balance."


Hey... if you haven't heard of Shane, you should Google him. He's quite a character and I love him!


Marisa

I've never heard of him until now.....THANKS! I will definitely Google him... :)

Rosie

I think I'd like to walk away from this conversation with the notion that God can use people in all sorts of ways to inspire and encourage us to live Spirit-filled lives. I thank Wayne Dyer for encouraging me to lead a more peaceful, calm life. I thank Shane Claiborne for showing by example how to be the Hands and Feet of Christ. I thank Rosie Parry for caring enough about me to make certain I don't veer off the path of righteousness. I mostly thank God for giving me His wisdom and discernment as I muddle through life and the promise of eternal life with Him!

Marisa








6 comments:

Scott said...

I want/need to post something here! I am not certain what it is, though. I read through your conversation with Rosie and I was so proud reading your portions! I didn't disagree with Rosie's, I just learned more about you in there, Marisa. You are a very special person and God does use you often to help others.

I am going through troubled times right now. It's not that my faith is being shaken; it's more like my life is just being shaken. I have always had trouble starting things and keeping up on them. Since the stroke, it has gotten much worse. My doctor says it has to deal with the "initiation sequence" in my brain. I can say or want to do something all I want, but, unless my brain fires that "go" signal, I will just sit there. It really bothers me. I didn't set out to say that, but it seems to be at the center of my issues right now, so it helps to talk about it for a second. Getting back on track, though, I think that God uses us all in different ways and, if we were all the same and believed all the same, there would be no discussion, no evolving in our thoughts, and we would stagnate. I love to read and used to read a lot of self-help books. I think I remember counting over 200 in a few year period once in my 20s. Anyway, it has helped me through my life by, not only giving me advice, but by giving me a huge reserve of information to pull out with other people. I know that part of my eclectic point of view is adult ADD, but even that can be put to good use by God!
Anyway, good discussion and I did enjoy learning more about you.

Marisa and Brittany said...

Mom,

I have loved watching you find yourself over the course of the last few years. I'm sure you weren't aware that I was paying attention, but I have watched you grow spiritually and it is exciting!

I do remember toward the beginning of my high school career, when you seemed so stereotypical "christian". You always had stereotypical advice (still good advice), and just did the church thing. But as I have watched you learn and grow, I am so impressed by the person you have become. It is not about the church you attend, the clothes you wear, who the preacher is or who is on the church board, it's not about saying the right thing at the right time or being in the right place at the right time... it is about unconditionally loving those around you (and by those around you I do not mean only your peers who are just like you and who are in your social class). I believe that it is not a matter of who you are listening to, it is a matter of what they are saying.


I love you, and I am proud of you. :)

Who needs a church building when we have our bible study and Jesus?

Susan said...

I'm so impressed with the dialog between you two ladies. I think sometime the Body of Christ is like a big spoked wheel - everybody (hopefully) focused toward the Jesus but coming from different directions.

IMO, we should try to see from all sides so we can appreciate our differences and learn from each other. I think there is a good bit of teaching out there that can be helpful to us as Christians (positive thinking, balanced living, etc) but sometimes we discredit it because of the person who espouses it. It's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I like some of what Wayne Dyer and others teach, but only as it helps me be a more focused CHRISTIAN and to be more effective in the world around me.

Brittany - what a mature and God-confident young woman you are. I know your mom is very proud.

Marisa and Brittany said...

Scott,

I am so humbled by your response to this dialogue. I posted it because I thought it would be helpful to those who read it as it was to me.

Rosie is very insightful and a dear friend. She was definitely watching my back! She is coming from years of evolution from where she came from in Mormonism to where she is today in her Christian faith. I appreciated her very much.

I too have been very thankful for the influences in my life (you being one of them:) I love what Susan said about life being like a wheel with many spokes... each coming from a different perspective, but all focused on strengthening our walk with Jesus.

I hope you know we are always here for you for any reason... remember, we are all walking through the muck of life together and living is so much more enjoyable (and bearable) when we know we have the support of the special people in our lives.

Blessings to you my special friend!

Marisa

Marisa and Brittany said...

Brittany,

Thank-you, sweetheart, for taking notice!

I have always been very sorry for not protecting you from the hurts and pains that life hurls at us at times. But, then I've realized those uncomfortable times are molding and shaping us into beautiful vessels God can use for Him. That is exactly what I see happening with you... you are growing into a very special young woman of whom I'm very proud :)

Thank-you for sharing with me by your example of how to appreciate and care about people who aren't just like me. I think I did have a cookie cutter perspective of what a Christian looks like and those outside of that parameter have fallen short somehow... I'm very sorry for that perspective and I can only hope that I can work toward a more loving, grace-filled future, seeing others through God's lens.

I love you, Brittany... just the way you are :)

Mom

Marisa and Brittany said...

Susan,

You hit the nail on the head... other perspectives are wonderful only as they help us become closer to Christ and interact with the world around us.

I couldn't have said it better myself!!

Marisa